fj: (NL)
[personal profile] fj
The Veluwe is an area in the middle of The Netherlands that is laregly designated as a nature preserve. This doesn't mean it is an untouched National Park like, say, Yellowstone; the Veluwe does have a number of villages and highways crossing through it. It is a visually very flat landscape, although it does contain some of The Netherland's rare hilly terrain. It is a very rural area with no large cities, consisting mostly of meager-looking forests and tundra-like flat fields, punctuated by small villages and isolated farms. Socially it is considered a backwater, but also a great place for a short nature holiday, like walking daytrips -- The Netherlands is too manicured to possibly call it 'hiking' -- or maybe even a long weekend on a camping farm. In poorer times, when half the country hadn't been to Thailand for the summer holidays, families might even take whole camping holidays in this area.

Now the Veluwe, and in my family's case, a small part of it called the Ginkelse Heide, is where my sister would, when we all still lived at home, on Saturdays take the dog to a spot where lots of people from surrounding small villages would take the dog on a Saturday in the car. They'd all let the dogs run loose on one of those flat fields with all the other dogs, having fun and playing around together.

Wildlife-wise, there are course the endless amounts of bunny rabbits, hares, and brown squirrels. There are some groups of deer, very few, but they have been seen. The Netherlands has no large predators in the wild anymore, althought there are some red-tailed foxes on The Veluwe. Besides owls there's always the odd sighting of near-extintc birds of prey trying to make a living there. No snakes, really, no deadly insects of course, for we have none in NL. The Veluwe is a nice safe almost sterile pleasant nature area in the middle of the Netherlands.



And right now, it seems to be harboring a mountain lion.

Date: 2005-06-20 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phornax.livejournal.com
And right now, it seems to be harboring a mountain lion.

If you're feeling homesick for pumas, rest assured that they exist in the Boston suburbs, too.

When I was a kid our family gardened down by the Sudbury River (much more fertile than our own house's rocky steppe) at the Community Gardens at Lincoln Meadows (http://www.town.sudbury.ma.us/services/conservation/custom/landspages/lincoln.asp).

Every year there was at least one mountain lion sighting. One year I was able to spot one myself, though it was just a blur in the corner of my eye as it ran past me at a distance of about 50 yards. It wasn't until it was a couple hundred meters up the trail and it slowed down that I could tell it was a large cat.

Date: 2005-06-20 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
They're not exactly indigenous to NL, y'know.

Yet no-one has reported one missing.

Date: 2005-06-20 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Your expression in this pictures looks completely demonic.

Date: 2005-06-20 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know I shouldn't smile for pictures much. I just wanted to prove it.

Date: 2005-06-20 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
I think it makes you look punk Amish.

Date: 2005-06-21 12:37 am (UTC)
jss: (badger)
From: [personal profile] jss
A punk Amish demon? That works. That really works.

Date: 2005-06-20 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phornax.livejournal.com
Yet no-one has reported one missing.

I think we have ruled out Michael Jackson's entourage...

Date: 2005-06-20 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tamidon.livejournal.com
Last year there were some sightings of a mountain lion and the tracks were analysed so they could estimate it weighed 150#. We got surreal information about how they like to stalk their prey from the edges of woods, leaping into grassy areas from underbrush. The parents all yelled"You mean like our backyards?" They never did catch it.

Date: 2005-06-20 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tfarrell.livejournal.com
Yup. Like their back yards. Although, they'll rarely approach houses so closely unless the houses have encroached so much that they have little choice any more. Nevertheless, the parents had better get it through their heads that the US of A is not a manicured park and ourdoors is dangerous if little Ashley Amber doesn't know what she's doing around animals.

I grew up in a heavily wooded area with both mountain lions and bears. I can count on one hand the number of times I ever saw either in the wild, but my parents made damn sure I knew how to deal with them.

Date: 2005-06-20 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
We have training programs for Mountain Lions and Bears at work (LANL), because every so often some gets attacked by one while running. We also have training on snakes and insects, and we are frequently warned about the plague, which is being spread by mice.

Date: 2005-06-21 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkfish.livejournal.com
We also have training on snakes

this is the training that left you not knowing how to tell which snake was poisonous, or what to do if someone gets bitten by one? What did the training say, "hey! If you see a snake by your front door, go out the back!"?

Date: 2005-06-21 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Actually, I haven't taken snake training, so I'm like a snake safety incident waiting to happen.

Date: 2005-06-22 12:20 am (UTC)
jss: (badger)
From: [personal profile] jss
Beware badgers and mushrooms, too. At least until you've seen the safety video.

Date: 2005-06-22 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Well, that doesn't look safe at all....

Date: 2005-06-22 03:02 am (UTC)
jss: (cthulhu)
From: [personal profile] jss
:-)

Date: 2005-06-20 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsc.livejournal.com
Are you referring to the one in or around Beverly? There have been persistent reports for several years now.

Date: 2005-06-20 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
No, she's talking about the "one" spotted in Acton/Littleton/Westford.

Date: 2005-06-20 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsc.livejournal.com
Apropos of nothing in particular, I think I just figured out that you and I met in a previous life. Unless I'm completely off base.

Date: 2005-06-20 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
What [livejournal.com profile] tamidon said.


It seems that those deforested areas under power lines (like the kind that deliver electricity to Massachusetts from the hydropower dams of Quebec) act as "catamount highways". Catamounts (pumas, cougars, mountain lions, panthers, etc.) like to skirt the edges of these forest clearings for deer and other tasty critters, and follow them all the way down to "civilization".

Date: 2005-06-20 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboi.livejournal.com
Pfft! Common knowledge. And I know all about the wooden shoes too, you wily barstard!

Date: 2005-06-20 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
My father has a pair. He gardens in them. No lawnmower will ever cut through those. We make fun of him.

Date: 2005-06-20 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboi.livejournal.com
Tulips, right? ;-)

/there, I think I've illustrated the entire American knowledge of Dutchland

Date: 2005-06-20 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboi.livejournal.com
Oops, forgot the windmills. (And Poland.)

Date: 2005-06-20 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsc.livejournal.com
Poland is in the Netherlands now? My, how that country does get around.

Date: 2005-06-20 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Don't forget Poland!

Actually, during that debate, they did forget the Netherlands. They too were among the coaqlition of the willing.

Date: 2005-06-20 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] houseboi.livejournal.com
Actually, during that debate, they did forget the Netherlands. They too were among the coaqlition of the willing

Damnit, I can't sneak any double-entendres past you.

♬ Past the Dutchie on the lefthand side, past the Dutchie on the lefthand side... ♪

Date: 2005-06-20 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Yes, I believe he has some in the garden, actually.
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