fj: (tech)
So I had this issue with Yahoo. I have a Yahoo ID, and I also ordered AT&T / Yahoo co-branded DSL, which makes you create an ID. Yahoo allows you to merge both IDs to make things simpler. Alas, when I stopped my AT&T DSL, my old Yahoo ID stopped working. No more Flickr. No more Yahoo Radio. No more Yahoo Messenger. I tried numerous times to get some information, until I finally did, from an AT&T rep, who basically told me I had to wait.

Except that that wasn't it. I waited for as long as I was told, but the AT&T servers did not purge my account and allow my Yahoo account to work again.  A new tech chat tells me that no, the previous tech had it wrong, I should have logged in using my old AT&T ID and done an unmerge and then things would have worked again. Now it is too late, you have to wait 100 days until some server does some automatic thing, no you can't log in now using your AT&T ID to do the unmerge because it has been to long -- yeah, because I had been previously told to wait -- so your AT&T ID is disabled as well.

Ok, I waited, and July 17th or so, about 6 months after stopping my DSL, I can now log into Yahoo again with my old ID. This could have been fixed if:
  • AT&T's systems had noticed I had a merged ID and sent me email that I should unmerge them when I asked for a shut-off
  • The first tech in chat had told me what I actually should have done.
What's surprising is that I am making suggestions here about how a telco should make things easier, especially when you leave. Right. Never gonna happen. Maybe Yahoo should have warned me that I was about to be locked out of their systems, but from the support emails I tried to exchange with Yahoo, they are not allowed to touch AT&T / Yahoo co-branded accounts. At all. Even though the name Yahoo is on them, Yahoo does not manage these, and is contractually not allowed to even peek. My bet is Yahoo can't even warn customers with merged IDs that their Yahoo ID is about to become useless because they're never told when a user switches off AT&T / Yahoo DSL.

Coupled with stories I am getting of Apple Store reps ending up in AT&T stores to just get this phone working and done, I guess this is the year to make clear to everyone that depending on other vendors for your own customer experience is a really risky proposition.
fj: (tech)
I have been unable to log into my Yahoo! account for over a week now. I've had this ID for what seems like ever now. For a really long time. I do not use the email, but I do use it for two premium (.e. I pay for them) services: Flickr and Yahoo radio. I also use Yahoo Hotjobs, and it is one of my IMs.

When I enter my name and password, the system brings me right back to the log-in page, over and over. It does not say my password is wrong or revoked or incomplete, it just sends me back to the login page. If I enter my password wrong, I get told that I entered a wrong password for the ID, otherwise I just get the login page with no other text.

I had no idea what was going on. Finally I tried to reset my password by having a new one sent to my email. That didn't work, I got the message "You must call SBC Customer Care at 1-866-SBC-DIAL in order to recover your password."

SBC?

Then it hit me: SBC was the company who did phone in Downtown LA before it decided to name itself AT&T again. And now I know what is going on: when I started trying to cut costs because I was no alone, I switched off Comcast broadband internet, and got AT&T DSL. This AT&T DSL is co-branded with Yahoo. AT&T Yahoo DSL gives, you, of course, a login and password on YahooAT&T Yahoo. But if you already have a Yahoo account, AT&T Yahoo allows you to merge accounts so you can keep using the old name. Well, I just cancelled my AT&T DSL. I guess that should kill my AT&T Yahoo account, but it seems to have put my whole Yahoo identity in limbo now.

I tried asking Flickr what to do. Their customer care's response unhooked my Flick ID from my Yahoo account. I cannot actually do anything with my Flickr account until I merge it with a Yahoo account, though. When I go to Flickr now, it asks me what Yahoo account to merge with. This is no help.

I found this form to ask for help with about logins and passwords on Yahoo. I described my problem and the result of my troubleshooting that the problem is with the merged ID following the DSL disconnect. Their response is that this is an AT&T problem, and send me to a chat site for AT&T support. After initially trying to pawn me off, the AT&T rep gives me the money shot:
You need to wait for 60-90 days until the server was able to unmerge your Yahoo ID with the AT&T ID. )

I think I could have said goodbye nicer, but I am pissed.

I think I will try the Yahoo help form again, but this time I am going to not mention anything about the DSL and thus hopefully not get immediately handed off to AT&T DSL tech support, but have the Yahoo tech handle it themselves first.

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