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While we can all debate about presidential candidates, the platform we are doing it on, LJ, is getting disturbingly unstable. With seemingly added fun facts of of LJ management not communicating with LJ almost at all.

That paid advertisements for 'curing' homosexuality or autism are now sometimes appearing next to the writings of glbt or aspergers bloggers who opted for a free journal is bad enough, but the censoring of non-wholesome popular LJ interests is disturbing -- and it was no mistake. No comment even made on it either.

Best info collected in [livejournal.com profile] hrafn.





LiveJournal Content Strike, Friday, March 21, midnight to midnight GMT.

No posts. No comments. No content.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quirkstreet.livejournal.com
Thanks for the link. And {wave}, I added you recently, we have so many friends in common it seemed foolish not to get better acquainted with you.

Date: 2008-03-20 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Humorous Pictures
see more crazy cat pics

I haven't been keeping track of the changes in my flists for a while. Which is odd. Hope you like it here.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
Hypothetically speaking, if people were to leave LJ in mass, which system would be the best to move to?

Date: 2008-03-20 02:36 pm (UTC)
jered: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jered
Ditto; is there another platform that usefully supports ACLs? I use RSS for everything non-LJ, but because people want to have list-filters I'm stuck here for reading, at least...

Date: 2008-03-20 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
None brings the community services that LJ do. One could try the LJ-clones like DeadJournal and InsaneJournal, but you suffer from the (lack of) network effect.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
So, what you are saying is that we are trapped here!?!

Date: 2008-03-20 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
There are migration tools to take old content and move it to a Wordpress or MT blog. You do lose the LJ community features and access controls, I think.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
It would be cool if some kind of migration was planned between all LJ users; everyone convincing their friends to move to a new system.

That would certainly catch the attention of the people running LJ.

Date: 2008-03-20 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-spire.livejournal.com
I think that blogspot (google blogging system) would be the best:

- owned by one of the biggest company so is unlikely to be sold to Russian hooligans like SUP
- no ads
- can create a co-authored blog, so there are analogues of communities

basically, it seems a great option

Date: 2008-03-20 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commonpeople.livejournal.com
I know that with Google Analytics, their terms and conditions gives them permission to do whatever they want with your content. Is it the same with blogspot?

Date: 2008-03-20 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-spire.livejournal.com
Your Intellectual Property Rights. Google claims no ownership or control over any Content submitted, posted or displayed by you on or through Google services. You or a third party licensor, as appropriate, retain all patent, trademark and copyright to any Content you submit, post or display on or through Google services and you are responsible for protecting those rights, as appropriate. By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through Google services which are intended to be available to the members of the public, you grant Google a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to reproduce, publish and distribute such Content on Google services for the purpose of displaying and distributing Google services. Google furthermore reserves the right to refuse to accept, post, display or transmit any Content in its sole discretion.

http://www.blogger.com/terms.g

I can't imagine a situation when it would really violate any of your rights.

Date: 2008-03-20 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
So I have one of those ad-killing things on my home browser, which means I see almost no ads at all, and WHOA the inappropriateness! Yikes :( (I've seen similar things happen at various blogs I read, where right-wing nonesense shows up in ads on left-wing feminist hippy blogs. Good times, good times.)

I haven't yet posted any links - at best I have managed to bookmark a few - but several people have been pointing out relatively easy ways to port entries and stuff over to other journals. I haven't done anything like that yet, so don't know how easy it is.

Date: 2008-03-20 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Oh, who made that? Is it yours?

Date: 2008-03-20 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterlawngnome.livejournal.com
yes, copyleft. repost, modify, use at will.

Date: 2008-03-20 03:45 pm (UTC)
jss: (grouchy)
From: [personal profile] jss
> No comment even made on it either.

Actually LJ staffer [livejournal.com profile] marta said "it was a mistake" (though how one mistakenly adds a line of code to filter out some interests from the list escapes me) and the change has been rolled back.

Date: 2008-03-20 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
As a response it is so devoid of content it almost doesn't exist, but hey, I guess a comment was made.

Date: 2008-03-20 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeffinthebox.livejournal.com
Have you read this:

http://technosage.livejournal.com/249085.html

What do you think of this person's thoughts?

Date: 2008-03-20 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
The first half seems to be a US person trying to school Russian Business Culture how they should act, and we can see the clash between Consumer Expectations and freewheeling Ruskies has certainly been amusing, from a meta perspective where my blog is not being threatened -- I mean, the way alone SUP has allowed the discussion to be hijacked by a loose cannon non-spokesperson giving interviews...

While all the points the writer raised of what SUP did are true, what he thinks they should do is a very US-centric communication strategy, complete with PR flaks and Process and Customer Representatives, a paradigm that I loathe for a system like this. I'd rather he have suggested a more direct structure, utterly possible on this system, if the C*Os of the company actually cared to blog and allow everyone to co-think. What the writer is suggesting is replacing the stone wall with painted smiles, because Consumers have been taught that is what they should expect from "good" companies -- taught by the PR industry.

As far as the boycott being anti-semitic or anti-Russian, seems like guilt by association. In fact, it is so close to Godwinizing the discussion that my co-intelpro hackles are going up: what would be nicer for SUP than to be able to claim that strikers are playing into anti-semitic hands? Still, SUP lives by our content that draws readers, including anti-Semite groups and virulent Russia-haters, so my reasons to strike still stand, and my wish to just remind SUP/LJ what they should be sheperding here and where their money really comes from still stands too.

In fact, I am ready to claim that by striking and getting more people to buy in, I am helping to tone down antisemitism on LJ for a day. I am a hero. Does that sound specious? So does the latter part of that post.
Edited Date: 2008-03-20 08:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-20 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zurcherart.livejournal.com
You got to get your previously mentioned design for an open distributed journalling system (aka UseNet 2.0?) implemented. Now you have something to do in your new London flat when you're not able to charge your day rate!

Date: 2008-03-20 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
Euy, that's, like, work, man.
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