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Snapshot: Katrina is no longer the main headline on CNN International edition. The lead story is now the stampeded in Baghdad that killed 658 people.

The US basically has now a refugee problem of 2M people with nowhere to go. Will they call on the UNHCR? Handle it themselves?

En zie ik hier de toekomst van de Randstad? Want je kunt die dijken niet omhoog blijven bouwen, en de zeespiegel blijft langzaam stijgen de komende eeuw.

Edit: To verify the name of UNHCR, I typed "UN refugee" into Google. The ad-word: US immigration attorneys.

Date: 2005-08-31 01:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mangosteen
En zie ik hier de toekomst van de Randstad? Want je kunt die dijken niet omhoog blijven bouwen, en de zeespiegel blijft langzaam stijgen de komende eeuw.

Waarschijnlijk.

Date: 2005-08-31 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
WHen I lived there, we didn't use to live with the notion of The Big One. The last Big One was a confluence of factors in 1953, and the kingdom spent a couple of billion dollars making sure that weather happening again was something not to worry about.

There have been some floods coming from the German border because of issues with the big rivers carrying more water in Spring, but those were relatively minor disasters, and have now also been worked against. Waterworks are a constant issue. Right until WWII destroying dikes and levees at selected parts of the country was actually an available option for national defense: army coming? Just flood 'em. Sure the livestock and posessions go to, but they would with an invading army anyway.

In a few decades, when the computer models change the possible outcomes, will we start living with the notion of The Big One?

Date: 2005-08-31 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
The question I have is whether any of the houses can be saved after they have been flooded like this. What happened to all of the houses during the 1953 flood?

Date: 2005-08-31 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanne.livejournal.com
Have a look
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Have a look <A HREF="http://clubnet.zeelandnet.nl/stav400/watersnoodramp.htm".here</A>. The site is in Dutch, but the pictures speak for themselves. In the case of the village Stavenisse the Norwegian government paid for the rebuilding of several of the houses. The white plaque on the middle picture, top row, indicates the height of the water after the disaster.

Because most houses are made of brick, they are pretty strong. On the other hand, being indundated by salt water for weeks might not be good for the foundations or the brickwork, I'm not sure.

Date: 2005-08-31 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
Because most houses are made of brick, they are pretty strong

Are you saying in NO or in the Netherlands? If they are mostly wood, I think the rebuilding effort is going to be huge. All that history...lost.

Date: 2005-08-31 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanne.livejournal.com
In the Netherlands. I've no real idea about NO, though in such a humid climate brick would seem the better solution to me...

I don't think the history is lost--just the authenticity of some of the buildings. We'll have to wait and see how bad the historic quarters have been affected.

Date: 2005-09-01 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danger-chick.livejournal.com
By accident today I found this article on how floods damage houses. Sounds like a lot of work to rehab a flooded house.

Date: 2005-08-31 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanne.livejournal.com
Na mij de zondvloed...
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